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Mnemo
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Here an pertinent article about the antimicrobial benefits of copper that could arm us with some invaluable tools as we fight this new corona critter. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xgqk … ket-newtab
Does this mean we should all be sucking on old pennies?



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Mar-20-20 13:58:12

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Alex
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No; this is hype. Increasing copper intake can be dangerous, especially for those with a tendency to mental instability.

Facts:
number of people dead from ordinary influenza this year: 250,000.
number of people dead from road traffic accidents: 1.4 million
number of people dead from tubercolosis: 1.5 million
number of people dead from diabetes 1.6 million
number of people dead from cancers 1.7 million
number of people dead from ischaemic heart disease and stroke: 15.2 million

...and it's a similar figure every year...
...and we do nothing.

...so what gives?  :  ) 
AR


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Mnemo
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The "coin in cheek" question I posed was really meant to be in jest.  The main consideration was whether we should be moving back to using copper and certain copper alloys on surfaces to mitigate the proliferation of microbial contaminant.

Certainly there are a great many who die from the ailments you have mentioned and many other causes.  Still there does seem to be something unique about this one.  It's the rapid pace that this has spread, relative absence of resistance and the tenacity of the virus itself, lasting for over a week instead of a couple days on surfaces, that appears to be uncommon.  It's result of overwhelming health facilities in some areas may perhaps be the most notable distinction.

Obviously, there are loads of corresponding lessons to be learned from something like this, such as the importance of crisis preparedness, living autonomously, and maintaining a healthy immune system.  These all deserve further discussion and response to prepare us for the inevitability of future tragic events, whatever the nature.


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Alex wrote:

No; this is hype. Increasing copper intake can be dangerous, especially for those with a tendency to mental instability.

Facts:
number of people dead from ordinary influenza this year: 250,000.
number of people dead from road traffic accidents: 1.4 million
number of people dead from tubercolosis: 1.5 million
number of people dead from diabetes 1.6 million
number of people dead from cancers 1.7 million
number of people dead from ischaemic heart disease and stroke: 15.2 million

...and it's a similar figure every year...
...and we do nothing.

...so what gives?  :  ) 
AR
There are correlations with all those diseases and metabolic syndrome.*
Metabolic syndrome is also strongly correlated with COVID19 outcomes.   
So that might be the most sensible prophylactic one could aim for.

Another strong correlation, is low vitamin D status.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 … 121353.htm
https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 … 20-01570-8

Also, smokers are vastly under represented in those who are infected.**    https://www.qeios.com/read/article/561

The US CDC data shows similar numbers.             https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/ … _w#T1_down
13.8% of the population are smokers, yet make up only 1.3% of COVID cases.



I do not know why the official response is so exaggerated.  It does appear to be out of proportion to the actual risk level.
Thinking too creatively on it leads me to conspiratorial thoughts though.
With the information available to me, the best I think I can do for myself is keep on neurohacking, get outside as much as I can,  and adding in some nicotine.






*I can't confirm traffic accidents are correlated with metabolic syndrome, yet they certainly could be considered a disease of society.
**Some researchers think It might be the nicotine preventing infection by ACE2 inhibition, other think it involves the acetylcholine receptor path.


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Robert
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Mnemo wrote:


Obviously, there are loads of corresponding lessons to be learned from something like this, such as the importance of crisis preparedness, living autonomously, and maintaining a healthy immune system.  These all deserve further discussion and response to prepare us for the inevitability of future tragic events, whatever the nature.
It does create an opportunity to objectively determine how much one is reliant on societal infrastructure.

There will be many humans on our planet that have not been affected*, and may not even know about it.   



*everyone is affected to some degree, and for the majority of the planet this could be seen as a positive from an environmental perspective.
https://scitechdaily.com/stunning-satel … -lockdown/


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Speaking of metabolic syndrome,
resident neurohacker localroger forshadowed Covid19 in his story Passages in the Void
http://neurohackers.com/index.php/en/me … nthevoid


One day a feral human knocked on the door of the nominal human leader of the city of New Cairo and handed him a small paper book. It contained the coding sequence for a strain of influenza which would be ninety percent lethal but only to people eating high carbohydrate diets. Everyone backed off and there was no more biological war on Earth at least."

whoa dudes...
  confirmation biases... smile


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