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NLP Question - Anchoring

Hi guys, i'm reading a little of NLP and is pretty interesting .. right now i'm focus in a term called "anchoring" and is like conditioning, probably everyone here know the history of the dog, the food and the bell/ring.

"The original and most famous example of classical conditioning involved the salivary conditioning of Pavlov's dogs. During his research on the physiology of digestion in dogs, Pavlov noticed that, rather than simply salivating in the presence of meat powder (an innate response to food that he called the unconditioned response), the dogs began to salivate in the presence of the lab technician who normally fed them. Pavlov called these psychic secretions. From this observation he predicted that, if a particular stimulus in the dog's surroundings were present when the dog was presented with meat powder, then this stimulus would become associated with food and cause salivation on its own. In his initial experiment, Pavlov used a bell to call the dogs to their food and, after a few repetitions, the dogs started to salivate in response to the bell" (Source Wikipedia)

So .. it seems like anchoring is something very similar but targeting us, humans LOL

Trying to understand why this occur .. in the point of view of a neurohacker, is because of the law "Cells that fire together wire together" ??

The theory is great i mean .. in theory (as far what i read) we can conciously bring to us x emotional state, and when we have at the peak of that state we do x stimulus (for example clap your hands two times) and if you do this constantly we reach a point when we clap our hands two times we tigger that feeling automatically? (of course probably not at the same intensity)

If this is possible is a wonderfull tool !

You can do the same things with states of mind achieved with drugs? and anchor that states?

Anyone have some concret experience with this?

Thanks!

Sakiro


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Sakiro wrote:
Trying to understand why this occur .. in the point of view of a neurohacker, is because of the law "Cells that fire together wire together" ??

Yes. Association in the mind parallels coincidental firing in the brain. However, awareness of association isn't the same as control of association; that's where the practice comes in  :  )
Useful info:
Richard Bandler is the co founder of NLP and he's written loads about it:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN% … 94-0479139

and he has several youtube vids.
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AR


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Perhaps it's just because my mind is always in the gutter, but while reading this it occurred to me that it'd be fun to see if this sort of response in humans might be experienced with sex.  For instance, if one of my special little ladies and I were to go at it and I played a particularly appropriate sound track each time, after a few repetitions (the more the merrier:) just hearing this music should elicit a similar (ehem) response.

Isn't being a scientist great fun?


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Mnemo...
I don't get the gutter ref. -do you mean like, the drainpipes on a house, or the edge of the sidewalk, or do you mean some kind of butchery, as in being gutted? What has either of these got to do with sex (unless one is a hopeful urban rat)?

Music for association & input control I do get; its a valuable hack as it's a permanent memory aid, not to mention mood enhancer!
Enjoy  :  )
AR


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Well "anchoring music" happens a lot i think in your first girlfriends, when she/you have x music sharing togheter in x moments, and later when you hear the music again and again you tigger the same/similar feelings at that moment.

The classical "Oh i hear that music and i remember/missed you".

Of course there is a lot of sentiment stuff involved in that stages ... so input control i think is important.

And yes i have 2 o 3 songs that always, every time i hear, i get a rush of energy, feel more motivated etc, i will love to have some neurofeedback stuff to see what happend to my brain when i heard that songs ..

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Hi dude,
Fun things to do: Exercise to improve association and synesthesia

Check out what neurotransmitters are associated with what emotions, then see if you can categorize your favorite music according to what neurotransmitters it produces*  :  )
This really helps you grasp the picture of these chemicals and what they're doing.
AR
*Don't expect your friends to be able to navigate your music collection**.
**Except perhaps if they're on magic mushrooms.


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Sakiro
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Hi alex, that's great idea!

But can you point me where i can find what emotions are related to x Neurotransmitter?


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Meta Process
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What about learning to relax during common stressful events until (lol) they make you calmer by themselves?


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Sakiro Wrote:
Hi alex, that's great idea! But can you point me where i can find what emotions are related to x Neurotransmitter?

Library/basics/ 'emotion and associated animal behaviors'.


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Meta Process Wrote:
What about learning to relax during common stressful events until (lol) they make you calmer by themselves?

That's exactly the idea behind encounter therapy for obsessive/compulsive disorder or phobias... You deliberately encounter the thing you fear with the support and help of others until it no longer freaks you out. When that happens, the relaxation response must be kicking in as the encounter is no longer chronically stressful.

While its easy to use this method for fear of heights or the dark or spiders, it may not be so easy to initiate for more common stressful events such as alarm clocks, attachment based  relationships or coercion  :  )
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AR


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